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Re: umm...huh?

My small addition ....for now

Equal protection issues? Coverage through parents? Up to 30 years old? What happens to the cost of this program when all those state and local government employees who have "uninsured" or "about to have uninsured" children jump on this program at the "forced" reduced rates that you propose? Where are your figures for that? Didn't you guys learn when you got involved regulating auto insurance? Why do you think that an insurer under a broad program that covers most of the state would view a 19 to 30 year-old adult child as a different risk factor just because he/she is under their parents' insurance policy? If "everyone" is insured what would be the difference anyway? Why is doing it this way "more economical"? Where are your figures for that? You are going to make this a more paperless process and thus more efficient? What are the figures for cost savings for that? The same as relying on technology improvements which you don't provide? Moreover, relying on technology advances in your program is a bit disingenuous as you have no control over that issue. Pilot programs for small businesses? What incentive is there for businesses, especially small ones that already give coverage to their employees or those that are self-employed that have their own coverage to retain that coverage rather than dumping it? What is the cost of that? Isn't this a bit of pay-to-play on your part? Will there be some income limit as to who qualifies or some sort of sliding scale of co-pay based on total wealth? Do you have to be a U.S. citizen...if not what is the cost of that? According to your program you would add about 200,000 individuals to the traditional FamilyCare system. There are about 230,000 individuals enrolled in the program at a cost of over $330,000,000. You intend to double the number of people in the program at no additional cost to taxpayers? That is simply not being honest about the issue. Despite all the smoke you guys are throwing up, it appears that somehow, someway, a program that ultimately insures in some way at a "minimum" (and I have extreme doubts about that figure) 1,200,000 people is going to cost only $9.7 million. That is by YOUR own figures and that is simply not possible. But again, when you are quizzed on this issue, you merely say that these are "preliminary" figures and "that it's complicated." It kind of reminds me of being patted on the head and being told "not to worry about it." That is disrespectful to the taxpayers of this (bankrupt) state. WHAT will be the total cost per person and/or per family unit for this program and what will be the total cost of the program? And don't tell me it's "too complicated."

by Anonymous Citizen on June 02 at 9:15 AM EST


basic assumption issue

It costs money to provide health care to people, and that money is spent regardless of the number insured.  If people aren't insured, it doesn't mean the public doesn't pay the costs, it just means that the costs are in the form of expensive emergency room visits rather than cheaper preventative care.

If you increase the number of insurance pools and ways for people to get access to insurance, it doesn't necessarily cost the state more money.  It simply depends on how you do it.  If you make it hard to get care until you're collapsing it will simply be cost more money, it's just that the money will come out of different pots (Medicaid, charity care, etc).

And yes, there are figures on fraud/technology.  You can find them in his plan.  Here are some costs we can work on controlling:

  • Approx. 20% of medical tests are ordered because previous results cannot be found

  • 3% to 10% of premium costs lost to fraud

  • NJ has lowest generic utilization in the country; taxpayers, individuals with drug coverage, and individuals without drug coverage pay high costs

by Matt Stoller on June 02 at 12:28 PM EST
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