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Corzine won...but didn't politically eviscerate...

.......Mr Forrester as he could/should have.

No one wants Jon to get overtly mean and nasty; that's clearly negative.  But this guy Forrester truly deserves to have his political head handed to him.  At the end, there were some flashes of the kind of tough factual/rational challenging that Corzine should have been doing all along.

Of course Jon Corzine wins hands down on the facts and on the logic; but many people judge these things by a kind of miasma of tone and tenor/style.  

Forrester comes off as tough and aggressive and as confident and self assured.  Jon needs to shed enough bright light (and strong fire) on this facade to expose the reality; which is that Forrester is a smug blowhard who operates as a bully (and as we should all understand...bullies are cowards at the core).  Doug is a con man at heart; just like Bush.

Again, this can be pulled off without Corzine raising his voice or sinking to the Forrester level...simply clearly directly tell the truth and demand the truth in response...Jon did a wee bit of that towards the end, and it worked well at that point.

It would break my heart to see another Kerry/Bush type result in this race...simply being smarter, truthful, and right isn't good enough; not if you're on the defensive most of the time.  People like Bush and Forrester need to be exposed...over and over and over.  The more light is shed on these creatures; the more dis-illusioned the electorate becomes with them.

And I do hope that Corzine is truly serious about eliminating pay to play.  It's nothing more than legalized bribery.  

Ideally we should ban all contributions from all "organisations" be they corporate/pac/union or whatever.  Ideally we should have public financing based on petitions and small (say $25 dollars or less) contributions that get multiplied.  Of course it gets complicated; but the details can be worked out...the principle is that ideas and competence should determine who wins; not just how much money is raised or spent.  We need to have an option other than crooks or multimillionairs.  

Decent honest folk should be recruited (anybody who wants this kind of power probably shouldn't have it ;-) to run for office.

Imagine what politics would be like if the constituency was actually the mass of ordinary citizens!  And the leadership actually led!!!  (As opposed to framing messages by polls and executing policies that paid back the contributor$)

Having said all that; I'm with Jon Corzine; he ain't perfect...but compared to Forrester and what's behind Forrester...Jon is a relative Saint!

Nick Lento

by nilent on October 11 at 9:50 PM EST

Issues are not enough

I could not agree with you more.  I am terribly worried about a Kerry/Bush scenario.  It is a sad commentary that aggressive liars get elected more often than level-headed thoughtful people, but we've seen it happen and we know the dreadful consequences.  I wish that Jon would have brought up the issue of Forrester's own tax evasion scheme; i.e. his post office box in Washington, DC for his ripoff pharmacy benefit company which does all its business in New Jersey.  How dare a man run for Governor of a state he basically defrauds?  I don't think this would resonate well with voters.  I also think voter verification should be an issue.  Republicans are consistently against any attempt to verify computerized voting machines with a paper trail, including HR 550, introduced by Rush Holt, a NJ congressman.  It is a no-brainer to ask a candidate "What part of counting every vote do you have a problem with?" They can't weasel out of that one.

by drrebecca on October 11 at 10:56 PM EST
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Doug "Thankless Job" Forrester

on the question about the $1 salary, Forrester really said that

I said this in my blog:

Doug "Thankless Job" Forrester wants to do a thankless job. Don't thank him, anybody. But I would like to thank Doug Forrester for not doing a good job.


"We need, in every community, a group of angelic troublemakers..." -- Bayard Rustin

by Kire on October 12 at 12:45 AM EST
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^meant as a reply to original post

apologies to nilent

"We need, in every community, a group of angelic troublemakers..." -- Bayard Rustin

by Kire on October 12 at 12:47 AM EST
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forrester is a liar

He's a smooth liar, but an obvious one.  Don't let the fact that the press sucks trick you into internalizing GOP spin.

by Working Bee on October 12 at 9:44 AM EST
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